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Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people

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Trump called neo-Nazis very fine people
MISLEADING
"After the deadly 2017 white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, President Donald Trump called the neo-Nazis and white supremacists who marched there "very fine people.""
Domain Politics & Elections
Tactic False Context
Era Current
First seen 2017
Origin Media coverage and political commentary following Trump's press conference at Trump Tower on August 15, 2017, later repeated by Joe Biden and others
Last reviewed 2026-10-27
Further reading: books on Politics & Elections

The claim that Trump called neo-Nazis "very fine people" refers to remarks President Donald Trump made on August 15, 2017, about the "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, where a white supremacist drove a car into counterprotesters, killing Heather Heyer. Trump said there were "very fine people, on both sides." In the same remarks, he said he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who he said should be condemned totally, and indicated he was referring to people protesting the removal of a Confederate statue. The claim that he directly called neo-Nazis "very fine people" omits that clarification and is misleading. Critics respond that the rally was organized and dominated by white nationalists, so his suggestion that "very fine people" were among the marchers was itself false or troubling. In 2024 the fact-checking site Snopes rated the specific claim that he called neo-Nazis fine people as false.

Background

The rally, held on August 11 and 12, 2017, was organized by white nationalists, ostensibly to protest the planned removal of a statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee. On the night of August 11, marchers carrying torches chanted slogans including "Jews will not replace us." The next day, clashes broke out, and a rally participant, James Alex Fields Jr., drove his car into a crowd of counterprotesters, killing Heyer and injuring many others. Fields was later convicted of murder and federal hate crimes.

The remarks

At an August 15 press conference, Trump said there was blame on both sides and that there were very fine people on both sides. When a reporter pressed him, he said that many people were there to protest the removal of the statue, and stated that he was not talking about neo-Nazis and white nationalists, who should be condemned totally. He also criticized what he called the "alt-left" counterprotesters.

What the evidence shows

  • The full transcript. The transcript confirms both the "very fine people" remark and the explicit exclusion of neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Quoting only the first part changes its meaning.
  • The critique. Journalists and historians pointed out that the rally was organized by prominent white nationalists, promoted with white nationalist imagery and featured the torch march. They questioned whether "very fine people" protesting a statue were present in significant numbers, and criticized Trump for drawing equivalence between the rally and its opponents. Many Republican leaders also criticized his remarks at the time.
  • Political use. Joe Biden featured the remarks prominently in the video announcing his 2020 presidential campaign. The shortened version, that Trump called neo-Nazis fine people, was widely repeated.
  • Fact-check. In June 2024 Snopes rated the claim that Trump called neo-Nazis and white supremacists "very fine people" as false, while noting the context of his remarks.

Why it persists

The episode shows how a quotation can be both used misleadingly and remain legitimately controversial. Supporters of Trump point to the omitted clarification as evidence of media bias; critics argue that the clarification does not resolve the problem of equivocating about a white nationalist rally. Both the shortened claim and its rebuttal have become partisan talking points.

Lessons for readers

  • Read the full transcript of controversial remarks.
  • Notice when a quotation omits a speaker's qualification.
  • A misleading summary does not make the original remark uncontroversial.
  • Consider who organized an event when evaluating claims about its participants.
  • Apply the same standards to quotations from all political figures.

See also

Sources

  • "Full text: Trump's comments on white supremacists, 'alt-left' in Charlottesville," Politico, August 15, 2017.
  • Snopes, "Did Trump Call Neo-Nazis and White Supremacists 'Very Fine People'?," June 2024.
  • Joe Biden, presidential campaign announcement video, April 25, 2019.
  • Reporting on the Unite the Right rally and the conviction of James Alex Fields Jr. (2018–2019).